The Money Fit Show · Season 2, Episode 3

The Art and Gift of Lifelong Career Planning

Guest: Mark Herschberg, Author of The Career Toolkit Host: Todd Christensen, AFC®, Education Manager at Money Fit Published: February 21, 2022

Career planning is not something you finish when you graduate from high school or college. Mark Herschberg joins Todd Christensen to discuss treating a career as a long-term project, reverse engineering future opportunities, negotiating for more than salary, and deliberately building the skills and relationships that support the life you want.

Money Fit Show Season 2 Episode 3 artwork featuring guest Mark Herschberg
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Treating your career like a long-term project

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Episode overview

Your career can be planned without pretending you know exactly where it will end

Mark Herschberg and Todd Christensen discuss career planning as an ongoing process rather than a one-time decision made before entering the workforce.

Mark suggests thinking about a career more like a long project. A 10- or 15-year direction can provide structure while still leaving room for changing industries, new interests, entrepreneurship, unexpected opportunities, and major life changes.

The conversation also broadens the meaning of compensation. Salary and benefits matter, but a job can also provide skills, relationships, experience, credibility, and access to future opportunities. Those less-visible forms of compensation can influence where a career leads next.

What we discuss

Topics covered in this episode

  1. Why career planning continues long after graduation and can remain useful throughout a person's working life.
  2. Approaching a career as a long-term project while expecting the plan to change as opportunities, skills, and priorities develop.
  3. Why different personalities, goals, industries, and life circumstances can lead to very different career-planning approaches.
  4. Asking not only what you want from a career, but also what you want from the rest of your life.
  5. Reverse engineering a desired role by identifying the experience, skills, relationships, and intermediate steps that could help you reach it.
  6. Applying career planning to entrepreneurs, founders, and people whose professional path may not follow a traditional employer ladder.
  7. Starting a business or making a major professional change later in life rather than assuming entrepreneurship belongs only to younger workers.
  8. Thinking about compensation as salary and benefits plus the skills, experience, professional network, and future opportunities a role can create.
  9. Negotiating not only for pay, but also for responsibilities, growth opportunities, flexibility, resources, and other parts of professional development.
  10. Moving beyond a zero-sum view of negotiation and looking for outcomes that create value for both sides.
  11. Treating the other people in a negotiation as partners in solving a problem rather than automatic opponents.
  12. Building a peer group where people can exchange ideas, accountability, information, and professional support.
A practical Money Fit takeaway

Work backward from the career you want to build

Pick a role, business, or professional situation you may want several years from now. Then ask what experience, skills, relationships, credentials, and opportunities would make you a stronger candidate for that future. You do not have to predict every step correctly. The exercise can help you make today's career decisions more deliberately.

Current career resources

The Career Toolkit

Mark Herschberg continues to maintain The Career Toolkit website and a free resource library that includes career-planning questions, professional-development guides, networking resources, and other tools.

About the guest

Mark Herschberg

Mark Herschberg joined Todd Christensen as the author of The Career Toolkit: Essential Skills for Success That No One Taught You. His background includes technology leadership, entrepreneurship, professional development, and teaching career skills at MIT.

His conversation with Todd focuses on taking greater ownership of career development, thinking beyond the next job title, negotiating more effectively, and deliberately building the skills and professional relationships that can create future options.

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